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Why
did you want to tackle two of the Late Plays as your contribution to the
CWF [RSC Complete Works Festival]?
The idea started with The Winter’s Tale. It is my favorite play
and for many years I have been thinking about a production which involves
the audience in the public and private dynamic of the play. I was also
interested in the process of exploring two plays with one company of actors.
Pericles seemed the obvious choice to go alongside Winter’s Tale.
Both plays are about an idea of rebirth, spiritual and physical. Both
plays take their protagonists on very extreme punishing journeys. In Winter’s
Tale, spiritual evolution is related to the passing of time - time is
the great healer. In Pericles it is all about place, the journey is physical,
one of physical separation. But I believe the possibility of rebirth is
something Shakespeare was obsessed with in his late plays.
The plays are planned to be performed in promenade. Can you explain
what that means exactly, and how are you going to design the Swan to accommodate
the promenaders?
I love promenade performances because the audience is directly involved
in the action of the play. They are part of it. This doesn’t mean
there will be audience participation but it does mean that some scenes
will be played amongst the audience and other scenes will require the
audience to move around the space to see the scenes. To make this work
we are boarding over all the ground floor seats in the Swan and creating
a large playing area that the audience will inhabit along with the actors.
There will be raised areas around this space where scenes or parts of
scenes will be played. Over the course of the performance it will be possible
for members of the audience to rest and find a perch if necessary, but
they should feel as if they’re in Sicilia or Bohemia or Antioch.
Of course some people are not physically able to wander around the space
and others are nervous about it so we’re keeping the two galleries
as seated and it will only be the ground floor area of the Swan that will
be for the promenaders.
How would you recommend the experience of promenading to potential
bookers? Is it better than sitting down?
There’s no question that these shows will be infinitely more exciting
and vivid for the promenaders. Shakespeare so often feels remote as an
experience for audiences. To find yourself as an onlooker at Hermione’s
trial or being a guest at the sheep shearing is a uniquely involving experience
and draws you into the play. Also if you have a bad view at any given
time you are free to change position or be as close or as distant from
a scene as you like. I’m convinced that many people who buy seated
tickets will want to move downstairs after the interval to be part of
the experience.
I know it’s well in advance of rehearsals, but can you tell
us a little bit about where you are intending to set the plays? (ie. What
the concept is going to be?)
One of the distinctive features of The Winter’s Tale is that there’s
a sixteen year gap in the middle of the play. In this gap there’s
an emotional thawing, a softening in the tone of the play. I started thinking
about what two periods in living memory, with a sixteen year gap, had
such an extreme change in atmosphere. I wondered whether, if we started
the play in the mid fifties, a time of paranoia and anxiety about male
and female roles, this would be an appropriate background to Leontes’
paranoia. That would mean that when we go to Bohemia we would move to
the flower power years of the late sixties, which was a much more relaxed
and youthful time and a time of generational conflict. It would also give
the sheep shearing festival a Woodstock feel, which felt playful and appropriate.
With Pericles I became intrigued by Marina’s plight of a young woman
forced to work in a brothel in a foreign city. This reminded me of the
plight of the many girls working now in London and other western cities
who are victims of sex traffic. So Pericles picks up from where Winter’s
Tale leaves off and moves into the present day. Having said all this I’m
very wary of being too literal in transposing plays from one time to another.
We’re going for an atmosphere rather than a reality. For me Shakespeare’s
plays always exist as much in the theatre as they do in any real place
or time. They exist in a poetic reality.
The two plays are cross-cast and play in quite a tight repertoire
together. How does this affect the actors? Do you think it brings something
special to audiences?
Repertoire is the best way for actors to work together. With this project
most of the actors will be in both shows and will benefit from the relationships
they form with each other in different roles and circumstances. Also,
the actors don’t have the relentlessness of eight performances a
week of one show which can be deadening. Equally the audiences love seeing
actors play contrasting roles from one night to the next. With these two
plays there are fascinating resonances between roles—parallel roles
which comment on each other. For example, both Hermione in Winter’s
Tale and Thaisa in Pericles are married to the protagonists and both come
back to life in some form. When one actress plays both roles she will
bring the resonances from one part to the next and the audience can make
the connection between the two. This will help make both plays feel like
one event.
How do you feel about being part of the RSC’s Complete Works Festival?
What do you think audiences will get out of it?
The Festival is a truly unique event for audiences. I believe the more
of Shakespeare’s work you see in performance the deeper your appreciation
and enjoyment of his work becomes. This year in Stratford you can get
to see the whole lot performed in diverse and unpredictable ways. I’m
excited to be part of that.
You
are just starting the casting process. Can you explain a little about
your approach to that?
Well, I’m trying as much as possible to cast people through into
both plays. Because we’re rehearsing the plays together Pericles
and Leontes will be played by one actor each. The parts are just too big
to rehearse alongside other roles. Everyone else will play at least one
role in each show, and where possible roles that relate to each other.
I cast very instinctively. I’m looking not only for suitability
and talent but also for artists that I can have a rapport with. I’ve
learned that I do my best work when I have a relaxed and respectful relationship
with my actors. I find that allows for an atmosphere where actors can
take risks and make mistakes. This allows for the creation of the best
and boldest work, I believe. Although I do think it’s necessary
to challenge your actors from time to time, I’m not someone that
thrives on conflict in a rehearsal room. So when I meet people in audition
it’s very important to me that I feel we can get along.
For
More Information
Please contact Bethany Prestigiacomo, Director of Artist
Residency Programs, Davidson College via email (rscdavidson@davidson.edu)
or phone at 704-894-2115.
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